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🔮 Nicky Alan – Her take on the THE HANGED MAN (XII) Tarot Card! [with Psychic Medium, Nicky Alan PSPE:043] 🔮

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In this show, we chat with Psychic Medium Nicky Alan and find out her unique take on the Major Arcana Tarot Card,

Number 12 (XII) in the Classic Tarot deck, THE HANGED MAN.

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**This Podcast was recorded on 6th November 2023**

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Oliver (00:12):

Welcome to Psychic Social. Thank you for joining us today on another one of our fantastic podcasts about the classic Tarot Deck with Nicky Alan. And we are talking today about the Hanged Man from the classic Tarot deck and from the major arcana and it's card number 12. So welcome Nicky. Thank you for coming back with us today to talk about another card in the classic tarot deck.

Nicky Alan (00:33):

Hello my darling. It's lovely to be back. Lovely to be back.

Oliver (00:38):

It's wonderful to have you here again. And we're going to be chatting away about this card, aren't we? And just before we start, just wanted to say we are so delighted to have our 10 hour Tarot private members Facebook group open. Now we've got quite a few members in there who've purchased the full course. So if you have purchased the full course of 10 hour Tarot, head over there and join in. And you just need to give your order number and you can get yourself into the group. We've got lots of people in there talking about these cards right now and various other things going on in the course. But like I say, today we're going to be talking with Nicky with you about this card. So do you want to kick us off and tell us a bit about the imagery and the colours and everything that's going on in this card? Please,

Nicky Alan (01:15):

Please. Yeah. Do you know what? When I first saw this, it's a bit like the doom of death, isn't it? Oh my God, it's the man hanging. Is the

Oliver (01:22):

Man hanging? It looks awful, doesn't it? From the outset? Yeah, I

Nicky Alan (01:24):

Know. It's, oh my God, what's happening? Oh my God, am I going to get hung? It's not that at all. In fact, I always find that lots of the cards sometimes give you the initial image of, oh my goodness. But they actually are giving you the gift, like the tower. And I always refer to the tower because I do love talking about my tower moments, but the hangman is that the hangman is in suspension. So it's not about the hanging at all that we have to, because straight away we think a doom, don't we? But he's hanging in suspension, and I love the fact that he's got red tights on in the original major arcana, the ride of weight, because it's shown that there's a base chakra issue going on. So the base chakra is colour red. And so he's being literally suspended by base chakra issues, which represents obstacles on his path.

(02:14):

Okay? Base chara stuff is all about stuff that we need to deal with on the earth. Plane bills, problems, problems with people losing your job, finding a job. Now all the rubbish that has got nothing to do with spirituality, we hate to have to go through. And so what happens is, is that because he's upside down, he's suspended, he's not moving anywhere, okay? He's literally stuck in a situation. So this could be a situation where perhaps you are working on a project and you just keep hitting a dead ends or you've invested in something, it's just not happening and it's not going forward. You have no idea why, or you're run down and things aren't going your way, and you seem to be having some sort of bad luck. You're like, for God's sake, what the hell's going on? And the thing is with the hangman is when you get this in a reading, it's a stop.

(03:01):

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. You're suspended in this situation for a reason, and it's the universe telling you this isn't working. Have a look, step back. So there's almost an element of the hermit coming in here, taking you back and stopping and looking at what you are actually dealing with that's creating the problem. So when you step back and have you ever noticed when you kind of get fresh eyes, look at something, if you've written something or you come away and come back down again, immediately go, oh, there's a problem, there's a mistake. It's just taking a step back and then looking at something with fresh eyes or a different perspective. Exactly. So what you need to do is it's a universe saying this isn't working because, and this is why I love, love, love, love, love, love, love, the shining, vibrant yellow light, almost like the sun around the top part of the crown and third eye chakra.

(03:59):

And also I always see it as almost encumbering the throat chakra as well, because it's telling you to go within, go with your divine intervention, go within your intuition, think and feel, but don't think too much. Look at the situation. How does it feel? Is this going to run the course? If the answer is no, not really, because I'm absolutely exhausted and I can't be doing this and I'm just doing it out of ego because I've thought it'd make money, there's your answer. Are you pursuing whatever it is in your life for the greater good? This can also mean relationships. It doesn't have to be spousal, but friendships, anything, it's encumbering anything. And obviously you'll know by the cards that connect next to it. If you've got Pentacles next to it's like, well, what you doing money?

(04:55):

It doesn't seem to be getting where it needs to go. Is it because you need to say enough's enough? Or is there something you've missed in the small print? Is there an approach that perhaps you need to change to make it succeed? Do you see what I mean? Is there something that you need to change to make this work how you want it to work? And so the suspension is for a reason. The suspension is giving you the heads up that this isn't going as it should be. And to take a breather, just allow it to be. It also is reminding you to be patient. So this comes under the zodiac sign of Taurus. So it's an earth sign. Earth yourself, ground yourself and be patient. And this is where I always see temperance coming as well.

Oliver (05:40):

I was going to say temperance as well. I was just thinking that. Yeah,

Nicky Alan (05:43):

Yeah, because you literally think, right? Okay. And if there's anything that's not working for me, I always think, why isn't it? Is it worth doing? Am I doing it out of ego? What is the greater good reason for me doing it? And what can I change? What is it I'm doing wrong that I need to apply change to? And then it's about being patient and trusting the universe. This card is all about trusting the universe, trusting the energy spikes that guides celestial beans, whatever it may be, are looking for the right spike for them to interact and go, bang, there's your opportunity. The problem is, as my guide says, we always live by TikTok time. Oh my god, it's been a week. Why haven't I got that back yet? Oh my God, it's been two weeks. Oh no, it's been six months. I've been working away at this. Why hasn't it happening? So when the hangman comes into the reading, I always see it as a fortuitous thing because it's saying, we've got this, we know it's happening. We know you've got obstacles. We're telling you to take a fresher look or actually ask yourself if it's worth investing the time and effort into. And also if it is, be patient. We've got your back. We know when it's all going to happen.

Oliver (06:55):

So this is that playing the waiting game. You're waiting for the right moment to do something. And like you said, pulling yourself back away from the situation, a bit like the hermit in the sense of taking yourself away but not completely away observing it, the situation whilst you're looking back and trying to think about the right thing to do with that situation rather than just acting in a split second.

Nicky Alan (07:20):

Absolutely. It's telling you stop bloody tearing your hair out and stressing yourself out. Because the other element of this card is to create physical illness. It does relate to health as well to a certain extent that you're either banging your head against the wall or you're creating stress or you're doing something that's creating illness, and it's taking time out to look after yourself, to refresh yourself, to just get a clean battery going, go to nature, get out there and think about the situation. Take in all of the strength that can be given from places like Woodland Sea. Every time I ever pull this card of thing, I need to get out and just clear my head. So whatever, whatever environment helps you to clear your head and your mind, go do it. And if it really is worth all the grief, if it is and there's a passion about it, that's fine.

(08:14):

Then be patient. It's coming. And I find it a very positive card, even though people look at think, oh my God, it's a very positive card. And every time I say to someone that I do a reading for with this and I say, oh, dear, things aren't going as the way they should, are they? No, they're not. Okay. And it's not moving as quick as it should. No, it's not. And then we eventually come to the conclusion of whether they need to go for it, step back and let it run its course, or just be patient. It's as simple as that. I think it's a very good card for you to just get a reality check on what's going on with something that's very static or isn't moving forward very well. And the same as if you are like, oh, you've got really bad knee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got really bad knee. Well, how much do you do about it? What do you mean? So well, are you resting it? Are you icing it? Are you making sure that you don't? No, not really. It's even something as simple as that.

Oliver (09:02):

Yeah. And there seems like an air of spiritual wisdom about the card as well, just like telling you if you're not particularly a kind of, if you're quite a reactive person about situations and things, whether it's emails or conversations or whatever, maybe just telling you to be a bit more spiritually wise and step away and observe the situation, take a break and let your mind think about what is going to be your correct response to whatever the situation is as opposed to just being reactionary,

Nicky Alan (09:32):

Oh, I'm terrible, I'm reactionary with capital R. But do you know, the other thing I love about it is as well is that there's growth in being suspended and stopping still. Because if you look on the beam of the hangman, there's growth, there's plants, there's leaves and all sorts of things growing around, and the beam is actually hanging from it's wisdom,

Oliver (09:53):

Isn't it? So

Nicky Alan (09:53):

There's a lot to be learned, and you can get a lot of personal growth from just stopping and reflecting,

Oliver (10:00):

And Teddy agrees, Teddy

Nicky Alan (10:01):

Is going to be Teddy. So in essence, dependent on what cards are next to the hangman, this is just a reality check for you to sit back, analyse the situation or whatever it is you're going for, and see what needs to be changed, if anything. And if it doesn't need to be changed, be patient. Sure.

Oliver (10:23):

That's going to lead me on to ask you about, I think we did it the last time, just give the listers an idea of a quick sort of three card, maybe past, present, future reading. I know you mentioned a pentacle next to it earlier, but maybe give them an idea of what example of what the hangman could mean in response to some cards around it, if you could. Hi, hope you're enjoying the show today. Now we have a brand new horoscope email you can subscribe to@psychic.co.uk. All you have to do is wait for the popup to show on the website and then enter your email and star sign. And every Sunday nights, we'll email you a free horoscope for the week ahead. Now you can dive in one step further if you wish. And take a look at our Horoscope plus memberships. This is your weekly horoscope plus a lot more.

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Nicky Alan (13:12):

Yeah, absolutely. So let's just look at, for instance, let's look at the two of ones that's just come into my mind. Thank you, Catherine. I think my little Catherine's here that does all this for me. So she's put in the two of ones. So this is you've created an idea or a concept and you're now putting it into fruition. So let's just say you've decided that you want to come away from your job and you want to start up self-employed making jewellery, let's just say for instance. So I'd say to someone, wow, you've had an idea and you've actually taken it forward now, and you're starting to create opportunity for yourself in a work environment, something you want to go for towards. So that's in the past. Yes, yes. I've started it up. I decided to come away from my mundane job and I've decided to start making jewellery. Lovely. And then the hangman is in the present situation.

Oliver (13:54):

That's the middle card, yeah.

Nicky Alan (13:56):

Yeah, the mid card for instance. So this is the present, right? If we're doing a mini gypsy reading and gypsy spread, and it'll be like, wow, okay, it's not going how you want though, is it? No, I can't believe it. I'm really working hard. I've got loads of jewellery, I'm really good at it. It's lovely stuff. I went to a fair and it was great, but I can't seem to be getting it out there, and I'm just really confused now. It's really stressing me out. I've not got enough money to pay my bills, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. And so depending on the, cause for instance, you could have the seven of Pentacles that are saying, well, no, you need to work your craft. So then I'd be saying, well, hang on a minute.

(14:34):

Are you creating the right thing for the right audience? Are you marketing it right? Do you need to learn marketing skill? So I'd look for the advice on the future card and then do another end card after that. So if it's a pentacle thing, just say, if it's like the 10 Pentacles, I'd be like, oh my God, you've got to hang on in there. Just sit back and have a look and see if there's any other way you can implement. Perhaps go on Etsy or something. Or perhaps look at the marketing. Have you done a Facebook page? No. Well, you need to tell people about your product. Oh, I didn't even think about that. You need to sit back and look at your project. And then I'll say to them, if he's stretching out that much, leave it for a little while, go and get a part-time job and come back again.

(15:16):

But if there's something like a 10 of Pentacles after a really good or a star or they mayana or the sun, I'd go, oh my God, keep going. Just step back and look at if there's anything else you can implement or different ways to market this or try and network or try and reach out to other people that can help you. Because I'm telling you now this is a winner. I can see it in the future card that this is a winner. And then ordinarily I'll do another one just to double up on that. So really that next card to me will be an advice card or Wow, you are going in the right direction. If it's a negative card like the eight of cups walk away from the situation, I'd say, do you know what, I dunno what you seem to be doing wrong here, but I don't think this is going to flow for you.

(16:01):

By all means try. But the eight of cups is like, you've really tried hard, but you need to walk away from a situation because it's just not serving you well. And then I'd get another card next to that to explain why, to clarify why or if it's just say, if the hangman comes up not in the centre one and comes up as near future, there's obstacles and the eight of cups. I say, right, you want to walk away, say the eight cups is the present cards. I go, God, you're thinking of walking away. You feel like you're walking away from, yeah, I've had enough. I've been doing this for six months now. I haven't had one sale, blah, blah. And then Save the hangman comes up after that. I go, whoa, hang on a minute. The reason why it's static is because there's something not quite right here. And as soon as it's done, as soon as something happens, it's going to go bang. And then I'll do another card. And if you've got a pens court or a fortuitous card after that, I'll be saying, you are mad to walk away from this. It's going to work. Do what I mean, the problem is we get so nulled up in our own ego, and I don't mean rude ego, we just think, I'm not good enough. It's not going to work. You fear that you're not going to be able to spiritual

Oliver (17:09):

Ego you're talking about, aren't you?

Nicky Alan (17:10):

Yeah. So yeah, you need to grab onto your spiritual higher power belief system connection and just say, right, I know you're aware of this. I know it's going to work. And even personally for me, I was working away, working away and trying to reinvent myself after my accident. And then suddenly I had all of these cards telling me I've had the hangman, my God, how many times I've had the bloody hangman and I've had temperance. And then it always says, yes, you're going to be well known and it's all going to be like it used to in your old life before accident. And then boom, it's happened. But the problem is, is they know when it's going to happen. We don't, and it's happening. Just hang on in there. And it's all about faith and trust because for some reason they take us to the 11th hour and then deliver,

Oliver (17:53):

Oh God, yeah, gee, I know that as well. Do you know

Nicky Alan (17:56):

What I mean? Yeah. And I dunno why they do it. I think it's just showing that if it was easy, what's the point of being down here? But they're just, perhaps we agreed in our life print before we came down, or a life plan to say, I need to have faith in you so that I can bring it to the masses. Personally for me, I say, yeah, I know it's hard, but this is what happened to me. And bang, this is what will happen for you.

Oliver (18:21):

I think they want to

Nicky Alan (18:22):

Test us, I think.

Oliver (18:23):

Yeah, sorry. Sorry to interject. Yeah, no, you're totally right. Yeah. And I just think as well, maybe they want to see how our earthly reaction is as our own ego into that situation. And it's almost like, I dunno, it feels almost like passing a test. If you can get to the 11th hour and not lose your head, you're off sort of thing. That's what it feels like to me.

Nicky Alan (18:43):

Absolutely. And when people in the past have said to me, oh, it's just a test of stuff. I've had enough tests,

Oliver (18:48):

I've had enough of them, I've done them.

Nicky Alan (18:49):

But you know what? What's the point? What's the, if you win the lottery and win presents at prizes every day and you've got everything you possibly want and you've got the love of your life, and you go, what's the point of coming down here? Because all of that beauty and peace and tranquillity and everything that you need is up in the spirit world. We come down here for lessons and they must think, oh, for God's sake, she's getting the up again because it hasn't came quick enough for her. Give her a hangman in the car to just tell her, hang on a minute. There's a reason why it's happening. There's a reason why it's remained static. It may be your fault, it may not have a look. Go with it. And see, and I dunno how the magic of these cards work. I will never ever know, but I'll tell you now, every single time I've ever, whether it's an Oracle card, angel card or tarot card, every single time I've asked a question, they deliver. I dunno if they, our guides inspire us to stop at a certain stage and turn a card over, or they physically flick 'em out, I don't know. But they never, ever, ever not make sense. And that's the magic of

Oliver (19:51):

Tarot. The cards never lie as they say,

Nicky Alan (19:53):

No, they don't. Without QR tarot cards, even if you can't work out what's going on, you just hit 'em on your phone with

Oliver (20:02):

The QR code. Yeah,

Nicky Alan (20:04):

On the QR code. And then it's all explained. And you literally, the amount of people that email me and say, I just can't believe it. I've just literally hit the cards, got the videos up, and it all completely makes sense. How does it work? I said, don't ask me. It's not asking about anything. How does it work? Just know that it does, and that there's some false, some higher power that's connected with you at the moment that is sending you these cards. And it's a message in those cards that has come from the divine to tell you it's going to be okay. Or watch this, watch that, or do this, do that. And that's the magic of 'em. That

Oliver (20:37):

Is the magic. Yeah. And that's what I've always thought as well is that the cards are just a sort of go-between, they are kind of channelling object or a channelling device for, like you said, from the divine through the person that's doing the reading, to the person that's accepting the reading. And we are just facilitating that. They're just using us and the cards to give that message across to whoever it is or to ourselves.

Nicky Alan (21:02):

Absolutely. Right. And it's a beautiful thing. And I think I'd bereft if I didn't have a, I even took cards out just for me out to Florida recently. I can't not have a set of cards with me because no matter how spiritually aware we are and how connected, I'm connected to spirit world, I've got immediate dialup to there. However, the ego does get in the way down here sometimes, and the cards just define it for me. They just, I think, oh God, I dunno about this. I go, yep, I knew it all along, but they've just corroborated it for me.

Oliver (21:36):

And they can realign stuff as well. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Nicky Alan (21:39):

Yeah. So I just love the way they've done and whoever created this imagery, they were so spiritually connected. The colours and the imagery just explains everything so beautifully. When you actually, if you want to, you don't have to, but if you do want to research the imagery and why certain things are drawn in these cards, it is incredible just going on that sort of

Oliver (22:02):

Journey. They are unbelievable, aren't they? The depth. And I just think the more, I studied the cards and looked at Pamela Coleman Smith's original drawings, it was pure genius. And it was unbelievable how she must've channelled that to have all those meanings and the sub meanings within the cards and the imagery that the drawings are just unbelievable. All the meanings behind them and everything. Fantastic

Nicky Alan (22:22):

Stuff without doubt. And you know what, my nan and my granddad used to just use playing cards. And I've actually got a very, very old deck, I think from the sixties that my granddad gave me. And they're really, really, they look weird. They're a bit spooky. You

Oliver (22:36):

Showed them to me, I think when I saw you last year,

Nicky Alan (22:39):

But you know what? The imagery in them. And I used to say to 'em, what does that mean? What does this mean? And it's just, then I thought, oh, it doesn't really matter. I used to say, this is what this means. This is what that means. And I never really looked into it. And it wasn't until we started connecting that, I started thinking, do you know what? I really want to look into the imagery. And it's incredible what

Oliver (23:02):

Things, she was a genius. Yeah, she was a

Nicky Alan (23:04):

Genius theology. It's just incredible. So that in itself is another study, not even worrying about the tar reading, the fact that there's beauty in the symbology and the channelled essence of what is written in every card is so interesting. Hundred percent and so amazing. And I think, wow, I never noticed that. Like the cat sitting next to the high priests desk, I think it is. Or is it? Oh, no. Or is it next to the, oh my god, I'm getting mumbled now. Or

Oliver (23:29):

The dog and the fall? Or is it

Nicky Alan (23:30):

Swords? Is it, and the Queen of Swords? And you just say, I never even noticed that before. And then you look up what the relevance of it. Oh my God, it's just incredible.

Oliver (23:38):

And a little butterflies in the crown of one of the court cards in one of the suits. I think it might be Pentacles, the King of the Queen. There's butterflies in the crown if you look closely and stuff like that. Growth,

Nicky Alan (23:49):

Transformation flight.

Oliver (23:50):

It's just incredible,

Nicky Alan (23:51):

Isn't it? So yeah, have a look into your cards.

Oliver (23:54):

Yeah, have a look closely. Have a very close look at your magnifying glass out guys, and have a close look. Well, Nicky, thank you very much. It's been fantastic to have you here again, talking about the cards with us. And yeah, if you want to come and join us again for the next one, we'd love to have you on for the next card. It is. Death is the next card, the much misunderstood death. Oh, my

Nicky Alan (24:13):

Favourite card, yes. Brilliant card. Thank you for having me, darling. And I really hope that people are benefiting from this because you really are entering into a world of magic when you get your tarot cards. I'll tell you that

Oliver (24:23):

Now. You are, you definitely. Well, yes, thank you very much, Nicky. And you can catch everything to do with Nicky Alan on all the things that, the great things that she creates at her website, which is NickyAlan.co uk, and she's got a wonderful shop there with tonnes and tonnes of stuff in there. Just dive in and have a look at that. There's loads in there for you to choose from and look at. And yeah, all you guys in the 10 hour tarot course, hope you're enjoying it. And like I say, if you buy the course, you can go in and join the Facebook group. But for now, thank you very much, Nicky. And if anyone's listening on Apple Podcasts, please do leave us a review. We'd love a fantastic review after you listen to the show. And we'll let you go now. Nicky, thank you so much, so much for joining us, and we'll see you for the next one.

Nicky Alan (25:01):

Thanks for having me, darling. Look forward

Oliver (25:03):

To it. Always a pleasure. See you later.

Nicky Alan (25:06):

Bye now.

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